Comments on: Pyromaniac Sets Pornification of Church Ablaze http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/ A place to pick up the pieces. Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:26:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sarah http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Sarah Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:26:13 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-488 Mark Driscoll ventures into some questionable topics yes, but I think it's great that he DOES acknowledge those topics- because they're a real part of society today. I don't believe that Mark Driscoll in any way goes AGAINST the Bible with his "packaging", but he does make a point of reaching out to all people. In a city like seattle that has more single, non christian people than most, Nick is right in saying that Driscoll<i> "clearly and consistently sounds the trumpet of sexual purity and faithfulness in a city that has a Porn parade! He constantly challenges culture and holds it up to the standards of the bible. He is not looking to become comfortable in culture but rather to confront culture where it is with the truth of scripture, however provocative scripture may be (Song of Songs). "</i> There are many people that benefit greatly from Mark's willingness to "go there", and if he were marginalized because of a few people who waste their time blogging all day in an effort to try to blame others and judge them in response to the depravity of our world, then that would be a sad day. Mark Driscoll is an amazing pastor and before you argue against him, I suggest you do your research. Titus 2:7-8 is instructions on how to teach young men by setting a good example. I fail to see how Mark Driscoll fails within this. and @Tony: I feel like your question is very unstable. Every time that you've sinned yourself and repented.. are you saying that you've never done that again ? If so, then that's great, maybe you should be a pastor, better yet.. We can print you out a name tag or medal that says, "Jesus Jr." . :) Mark Driscoll ventures into some questionable topics yes, but I think it’s great that he DOES acknowledge those topics- because they’re a real part of society today. I don’t believe that Mark Driscoll in any way goes AGAINST the Bible with his “packaging”, but he does make a point of reaching out to all people. In a city like seattle that has more single, non christian people than most, Nick is right in saying that Driscoll “clearly and consistently sounds the trumpet of sexual purity and faithfulness in a city that has a Porn parade! He constantly challenges culture and holds it up to the standards of the bible. He is not looking to become comfortable in culture but rather to confront culture where it is with the truth of scripture, however provocative scripture may be (Song of Songs). “

There are many people that benefit greatly from Mark’s willingness to “go there”, and if he were marginalized because of a few people who waste their time blogging all day in an effort to try to blame others and judge them in response to the depravity of our world, then that would be a sad day. Mark Driscoll is an amazing pastor and before you argue against him, I suggest you do your research.

Titus 2:7-8 is instructions on how to teach young men by setting a good example. I fail to see how Mark Driscoll fails within this.

and @Tony:
I feel like your question is very unstable. Every time that you’ve sinned yourself and repented.. are you saying that you’ve never done that again ? If so, then that’s great, maybe you should be a pastor, better yet.. We can print you out a name tag or medal that says, “Jesus Jr.” . :)

]]> By: yngsll http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-478 yngsll Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:57:54 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-478 FlDxE8 <a href="http://kncdaresugrl.com/" rel="nofollow">kncdaresugrl</a>, [url=http://scjjjuzbzfmo.com/]scjjjuzbzfmo[/url], [link=http://ldmrwvtbamiw.com/]ldmrwvtbamiw[/link], http://wwgzrcluhcmm.com/ FlDxE8 kncdaresugrl, [url=http://scjjjuzbzfmo.com/]scjjjuzbzfmo[/url], [link=http://ldmrwvtbamiw.com/]ldmrwvtbamiw[/link], http://wwgzrcluhcmm.com/

]]> By: Wendy http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-296 Wendy Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:07:17 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-296 Just run all the gangs out of America, use force, guns, tanks. We dont need these bastards! Bankrupted hospitals with illegals, they have who know how many gangs that rob, rape and murder, enough is enough. Time to use our military domestically. Shoot them ALL out. Just run all the gangs out of America, use force, guns, tanks. We dont need these bastards! Bankrupted hospitals with illegals, they have who know how many gangs that rob, rape and murder, enough is enough. Time to use our military domestically. Shoot them ALL out.

]]> By: Marie http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Marie Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:15:19 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-176 Is that John Macarthur introducing Phil? Great sermon! Is that John Macarthur introducing Phil?

Great sermon!

]]> By: Tony http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Tony Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:36:00 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-175 Nick said, "Sometimes Mark does say something that he probably shouldn’t, as he will be the first to tell you…but he is quick to admit to and repent of crossing any lines." If he has repented why does he keep doing it? Nick said,

“Sometimes Mark does say something that he probably shouldn’t, as he will be the first to tell you…but he is quick to admit to and repent of crossing any lines.”

If he has repented why does he keep doing it?

]]> By: Julie http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-174 Julie Sat, 07 Mar 2009 22:56:12 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-174 Thanks for posting this. Thanks for posting this.

]]> By: wizzard http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-173 wizzard Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:43:45 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-173 @Nick: You'll probably receive a more satisfying discussion if you bring your comment up <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2009/03/as-one-having-authority.html" rel="nofollow">with Phil directly</a>. However, I might first suggest you maybe reread Titus 2:7-8 some more until the point sinks in. @Nick:

You’ll probably receive a more satisfying discussion if you bring your comment up with Phil directly. However, I might first suggest you maybe reread Titus 2:7-8 some more until the point sinks in.

]]> By: Sesión 6:Phil Johnson – Shepherds’ Conference « El Evangelio Segun Jesucristo http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-172 Sesión 6:Phil Johnson – Shepherds’ Conference « El Evangelio Segun Jesucristo Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:26:38 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-172 [...] NOTA: Estas notas son muy abreviadas debido a la cantidad de información que Phil cubrió en su sesión. El audio de la sesión está disponible aquí. [...]

[...] NOTA: Estas notas son muy abreviadas debido a la cantidad de información que Phil cubrió en su sesión. El audio de la sesión está disponible aquí. [...]

]]> By: Kelvin http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Kelvin Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:24:59 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-171 Phil presented his case with accuracy, honesty, and clarity. He was bang on -- using the world's "packaging" (ie. the sensual/pornified vernacular) to contextualize the truth, while attempting to make it more attractive/palatable/acceptable/popular is offensive and unbiblical. Now lets be equally consistent in applying the same principles to contextualizing our worship by "packaging" God's truth in the sensual/pornified/rebellious musical styles (vernacular) of the world. Phil presented his case with accuracy, honesty, and clarity. He was bang on — using the world’s “packaging” (ie. the sensual/pornified vernacular) to contextualize the truth, while attempting to make it more attractive/palatable/acceptable/popular is offensive and unbiblical.
Now lets be equally consistent in applying the same principles to contextualizing our worship by “packaging” God’s truth in the sensual/pornified/rebellious musical styles (vernacular) of the world.

]]> By: Nick http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/2009/03/pyromaniac-sets-pornification-of-church-ablaze/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Nick Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:56:42 +0000 http://shatteredpixels.net/blog/?p=235#comment-170 While I completely agree with what Phil Johnson is saying, Mark Driscoll should not be included in this category of the Pornification of the the church, and if Phil thinks he should, then clearly he hasn't done his research. Mark clearly and consistently sounds the trumpet of sexual purity and faithfulness in a city that has a Porn parade! He constantly challenges culture and holds it up to the standards of the bible. He is not looking to become comfortable in culture but rather to confront culture where it is with the truth of scripture, however provocative scripture may be (Song of Songs). Sometimes Mark does say something that he probably shouldn't, as he will be the first to tell you...but he is quick to admit to and repent of crossing any lines. While I completely agree with what Phil Johnson is saying, Mark Driscoll should not be included in this category of the Pornification of the the church, and if Phil thinks he should, then clearly he hasn’t done his research. Mark clearly and consistently sounds the trumpet of sexual purity and faithfulness in a city that has a Porn parade! He constantly challenges culture and holds it up to the standards of the bible. He is not looking to become comfortable in culture but rather to confront culture where it is with the truth of scripture, however provocative scripture may be (Song of Songs). Sometimes Mark does say something that he probably shouldn’t, as he will be the first to tell you…but he is quick to admit to and repent of crossing any lines.

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